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	<title>Comments on: On Leaky Abstractions and Objective-J</title>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Music</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-2163</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>


While Union Square and Fisherman&#039;s Wharf are packed with
restaurants, savvy visitors won&#039;t want to overlook options in more distant
neighborhoods such as Haight-Ash-bury, the Sunset, the Richmond,North Beach,
and others. San Francisco, where dining is so fabled that some visitors flock
here just to eat, has more restaurant options per capital than anywhere else
across the nation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Union Square and Fisherman&#8217;s Wharf are packed with<br />
restaurants, savvy visitors won&#8217;t want to overlook options in more distant<br />
neighborhoods such as Haight-Ash-bury, the Sunset, the Richmond,North Beach,<br />
and others. San Francisco, where dining is so fabled that some visitors flock<br />
here just to eat, has more restaurant options per capital than anywhere else<br />
across the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jackson</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let the trolls get you down, &quot;A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds&quot;.

I&#039;m all in...ready and waiting for Atlas Beta for Windows!

Just for the sake of discussion, wouldn&#039;t the second diagram be SVG + Javascript?

Also, I&#039;m thinking about the step to the third diagram with ???, where Javascript really is out of the picture.  I was thinking GWT might bridge that gap better. After, more thought, that is so far down the road, I doubt GWT would be any more relevant. I also wouldn&#039;t want to discount the significance of being able to edit/refresh the browser as you say...ultimately developing right in the browser! Also, this is where your build tools might someday get their guts replaced to migrate to ???.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let the trolls get you down, &#8220;A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all in&#8230;ready and waiting for Atlas Beta for Windows!</p>
<p>Just for the sake of discussion, wouldn&#8217;t the second diagram be SVG + Javascript?</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m thinking about the step to the third diagram with ???, where Javascript really is out of the picture.  I was thinking GWT might bridge that gap better. After, more thought, that is so far down the road, I doubt GWT would be any more relevant. I also wouldn&#8217;t want to discount the significance of being able to edit/refresh the browser as you say&#8230;ultimately developing right in the browser! Also, this is where your build tools might someday get their guts replaced to migrate to ???.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnlabarge</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-1933</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnlabarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article was absolutely fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article was absolutely fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Norvell</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Norvell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a brilliant article.  For me, Cappuccino and Objective-J are an incredible and unexpected boon -- providing a way out of the client-bound, and a way forward onto the web -- a real future, but one that doesn&#039;t require the sacrifice of my past!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a brilliant article.  For me, Cappuccino and Objective-J are an incredible and unexpected boon &#8212; providing a way out of the client-bound, and a way forward onto the web &#8212; a real future, but one that doesn&#39;t require the sacrifice of my past!</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smalltalk like syntax is what won me in the first place....You have to program as you talk..this is what i call syntax...well, smalltalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smalltalk like syntax is what won me in the first place&#8230;.You have to program as you talk..this is what i call syntax&#8230;well, smalltalk.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I also felt the need to respond to John Resig with a post of my own&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to-jquery/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I also felt the need to respond to John Resig with a post of my own<br /><a href="http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to-jquery/" rel="nofollow">http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an extensive article, great work. &lt;br&gt;I totally agree that the likes of Prototype and jQuery are limited as they don&#039;t extend the syntax. Furthermore the sugared-syntax that with its clever use of whitespace is very unintuitive indeed, and stands in the way of developers new to JavaScript gaining any real understanding of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is at this point that I must plug my own project which is an abstraction in ActionScript. You write AS3 and the JASPA compiler generates regular JavaScript from it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jaspa.org.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jaspa.org.uk/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s an extensive article, great work. <br />I totally agree that the likes of Prototype and jQuery are limited as they don&#39;t extend the syntax. Furthermore the sugared-syntax that with its clever use of whitespace is very unintuitive indeed, and stands in the way of developers new to JavaScript gaining any real understanding of it.</p>
<p>It is at this point that I must plug my own project which is an abstraction in ActionScript. You write AS3 and the JASPA compiler generates regular JavaScript from it. <a href="http://www.jaspa.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaspa.org.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2008/12/08/on-leaky-abstractions-and-objective-j/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I also felt the need to respond to John Resig with a post of my own&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to-jquery/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I also felt the need to respond to John Resig with a post of my own<br /><a href="http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to-jquery/" rel="nofollow">http://web.2point1.com/2009/01/03/a-response-to&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an extensive article, great work. &lt;br&gt;I totally agree that the likes of Prototype and jQuery are limited as they don&#039;t extend the syntax. Furthermore the sugared-syntax that with its clever use of whitespace is very unintuitive indeed, and stands in the way of developers new to JavaScript gaining any real understanding of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is at this point that I must plug my own project which is an abstraction in ActionScript. You write AS3 and the JASPA compiler generates regular JavaScript from it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jaspa.org.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jaspa.org.uk/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s an extensive article, great work. <br />I totally agree that the likes of Prototype and jQuery are limited as they don&#39;t extend the syntax. Furthermore the sugared-syntax that with its clever use of whitespace is very unintuitive indeed, and stands in the way of developers new to JavaScript gaining any real understanding of it.</p>
<p>It is at this point that I must plug my own project which is an abstraction in ActionScript. You write AS3 and the JASPA compiler generates regular JavaScript from it. <a href="http://www.jaspa.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaspa.org.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: tlrobinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlrobinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Also fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Also fixed.</p>
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